Episode 7: Interview with Billie Jauss: Author, Speaker, and Baseball Wife

In this episode we have a very lively conversation with the wonderful Billie Jauss, author and speaker and baseball wife. Come join the conversation.

Show Notes:

Terrie (00:37):

Welcome to Everyday Discipleship Every Day where we discuss discipleship in the 21st century, guided by biblical discipleship, a Christian worldview, and individual needs while focusing on discipling our children as well. I’m your host, Terrie Hellard Brown, and I’ve begun releasing my discipleship book online through my blog for free, and you can find that at TerrieHellardBbrown.com, and you can download it for free. It’s there for you to use, and I hope it blesses you.

Terrie (01:08):

Now, today, we have a very special guest that’s joining us, and she has a brand new book coming out, and I’m just so excited for you to get to meet Billie Jauss and to hear her story. She has some fun stories that are going to challenge you and hopefully encourage you in your walk with God. It sure encouraged me. So let’s join the conversation today.

Terrie (01:30):

We have a very special guest with us. We have Billie with us, and she’s going to share about her books, but also we’re going talk about relationships today. So Billie, thank you for joining us.

Billie (01:41):

Thank you so much for having me.

Terrie (01:43):

Well, tell us first of all about your books and your newest one, and let us know what that’s all about, and then let’s talk about what you talk about relationships.

Billie (01:53):

Yeah, it’s great. This is my third book being released, the end of April, 2024. And it’s being released in English and Spanish, and that is just such an exciting time for me. My husband and I have been in professional baseball for 37 years, so we have learned to build relationships even with people that we may not want to forge relationships with or foster relationships with. So that’s where the heart of this book came out of, and it’s called Baseball Family, the Nine Core Qualities for Developing Healthy Relationships. And so that’s this current book, and I’m excited that it’s coming out in Spanish because we’ve actually lived in the Dominican Republic and Venezuela. So to give back, to have an offer, a resource for Latin American baseball players and all of that is just a great experience. I’m really excited about that.

Billie (02:49):

My two previous books, the first one was named Making Room: Doing Less So God Can Do More. And that was just birthed out of the chaos of the baseball life. You don’t have to understand baseball to relate to my books because a lot of life that happens in baseball happens for other people just in different ways. And so the chaos of life is where Making Room came from. Where can I really simplify my life in a sense that I can draw closer to God? What can I do less of so God can do more in and through my life? And then out of that book, birthed Distraction Detox, which is about the emotional toxins that we hold onto that keep us from digging deeper with the Lord. Because with the first book Making Room, I simplified my schedule. Everything was–my baby had left for college. Life was getting very simple. My schedule wasn’t as crazy. I wasn’t volunteering for as much, but there were times where something would trigger me like, Hmm, just can’t go to God with that one. Or, uh, I’m not imported enough to go to God. He’s got more important things going on. And I knew that wasn’t true. It wasn’t what I was reading in scripture and I needed to figure it out. And so I went through that process with Distraction Detox, and I love that book. I go back to it and refer to it a lot because the three main toxins that I realized through talking with people online and on Facebook and Instagram was fear, unbelief, and shame and guilt. And I know shame and guilt are two, but you really don’t have shame without guilt and guilt without shame. So really digging into those emotional toxins and how can we learn to take control of them, because I don’t think we ever–the Lord can heal us of many things, but for some reason, fear has not been healed from my life. I worry; I get anxious about things at times, and I know to go to the Lord and how to stop that thought now that I’ve gone through that detox process.

Terrie (04:49):

Yeah, that’s great. Sets you free.

Billie (04:52):

Amen.

Terrie (04:54):

And on your website, you have a little quiz for us to kind of figure out what’s kind of holding us up, right?

Billie (05:00):

Yeah, there’s a Distraction Detox Quiz, and then I also have another new quiz up called Your Greatest Relationship Strength that digs into topics on the new book. So really, I love quizzes. I don’t know about you, but I love quizzes. Today I was talking to someone, I’m like, I want to do another quiz. I want to do relationships related to books that I’ve read, or movies that I’ve watched, or baseball movies or something. And she and I were brainstorming about it, and it was so fun. I love quizzes. I will take any quiz that I run across on Facebook, Instagram, somebody’s website. So developing quizzes has been a fun process. I just pray that they give the answers that are relevant to the person taking it. And so far, so good. It’s been really good.

Terrie (05:50):

Yeah, I took one of them and it was, it was very interesting. And it made me stop and think, and it was pretty right on. So that was cool.

Billie (05:56):

Yeah. Good, good.

Terrie (05:58):

Well, tell me how, because we also lived overseas. We lived in Asia, but my husband, his first place he lived was Venezuela. And his first language was Spanish.

Billie (06:07):

I have a middle son. His first language was Spanish because we lived in Venezuela. Yeah.

Terrie (06:11):

Cool. I love Venezuela. I’m so heartbroken by what has happened there. But yeah. How has, how have you approached discipleship and building relationships for discipleship in different cultures? What do you see as some of the things we need to consider when we’re crossing cultural lines with discipleship?

Billie (06:31):

Yeah. What a great question, because when you are living in the United States all the time and you see people that speak a different language or come from a different culture, you may not walk into a situation because you’re uncomfortable. And that’s where we have to overcome our comfort, hold back, you know, because comfort can hold us back from so many things.

Terrie (06:55):

Oh, good point.

Billie (06:57):

It does. Because if you were uncomfortable, we don’t want to step into that space if it’s not what we’re comfortable with. We don’t want to step in that space. And for me, going to Venezuela, we were there in the early nineties, and I was a young mom. I had two kids. We go down there and I just felt like I’m not going to really go down there and act like an American. I want to live the life as if we were Venezuelan. And let me tell you, I had rudimentary Spanish. My Spanish was high school and a little bit of college. And I got to Venezuela. And I’m like, I didn’t feel like I had learned any Spanish. It didn’t think it was helping me. But I walked into, back then, Venezuela, love the country. One of the most beautiful countries I’ve ever been to, number one. Number two, best Italian food I’ve ever eaten is in Venezuela. And I’ve been to Italy.

Terrie (07:56):

Oh my goodness.

Billie (07:57):

Yeah, because the influx of immigrants, the Italian immigrants, the influx of Italian immigrants after World War I, they came in and even before World War I, they came in. And so there’s all these blue-eyed Italians, that dark hair, olive skin, and their food is amazing. But I wanted to live the life. So back then, you went to the butcher market and the bread, the bakery and the, you know, the grocery store. I used air quotes on grocery store because it wasn’t much more than a few–I mean, if we found taco seasoning, like old El Paso, taco seasoning, I was like home. But I was living the culture. And, and I think the number one way is inclusion. When you include others and you include yourself. Because when you go into these other countries, we’ve lived in the Dominican Republic also. I don’t want to go there and just eat McDonald’s because it’s American food. Or just buy Charmin toilet paper, because that’s what I’m comfortable with. When you go in and cleaning supplies, that’s a weird one for me. because there’s something about certain cleaning supplies, the smell, you’re like: It’s clean if it smells like Clorox cleanup, but their Clorox doesn’t smell like our Clorox, you know, like, so it’s just going in and accepting that you’re in a different country and that you’re going to live there like that.

Billie (09:26):

But there’s also a lot to overcome: the language barrier. I had to learn the language in the early nineties. There were no television, well, I’ll take that back. There was one television station that was in English, and it was the USA Network. And the only show that they showed was Pure Country, that George Strait movie from back in the day. If you haven’t watched it, go watch it. It’s a really cool movie. I watched it about 4 million times, but I watched TV in Spanish. I went to the Butcher. Funny story. Went to the butchery. And the guys there were so nice, and they were so helpful. And I’d walk in, and I’d try to learn Spanish. And I was pointing to this boneless skinless chicken breast. And he said, chicken. And I went, no, Espanol. So they had just as much fun with me as I had with them. And when you go in in an accepting, supportive manner that you are here and I need your help, that vulnerability of I need your help, then you’re able to step into their culture. Here in the states, learn a few Spanish. I live in Florida, so in Florida there’s a lot of Spanish speakers around.

Billie (10:44):

It’s really, really nice to be able to ask for something in Spanish when I know the person that’s putting things on the shelf may not speak English. Thank God they have a job, and they’re able to work. But I can step into their culture a little bit. And boy they light up. And then I have to go, whoa, whoa, whoa. I don’t speak a lot of Spanish. I just know enough Spanish to eat and feed my kids. And, you know, and baseball Spanish, because we’re in baseball. But to step into those areas and really embrace the culture. The United States has been a place of immigrants for hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of years. And to be able to live in Boston, which I say there were more people of Irish descent in Boston than there are in Ireland. To understand their culture and their Irish brogue and their Irish food and their devout Catholicism of loving Jesus that way. To embrace that, to be able to live in New York City, you know, in an Orthodox Jewish area. And embrace their love for the Lord, like they love God with all their heart. And try to understand our differences and being respectful of theirs, but also sharing my beliefs. So it’s just a place of rhythm. You’ll never be balanced in any of this. It’s a rhythm. It’s a give and take in those relationships.

Terrie (12:13):

That’s very true. I remember we were in Taiwan for 15 years. And I remember the first two years, I just felt like I was out of my own element. And then all of a sudden one day I was walking down the sidewalk and I felt like I was in my own skin again. And it was like I finally felt at home because before then, I kept thinking, I’m going to say something to offend somebody. I’m going to do something to offend somebody. You know? And so I felt comfortable in the culture and just the tiniest step of trying to use the language. Enjoying the food and telling how much you love that food crosses a bridge that then opens doors for evangelism, for discipleship.

Billie (12:59):

Absolutely.

Terrie (12:59):

For friendship. And I love that. That’s exactly the attitude we had when we went was we’re going to be part of the culture. We’re going to, of course, we were doing an English ministry. My husband was an English pastor. So we did have that advantage. He still needed to learn Chinese. I didn’t have to because I was teaching English. So my Chinese is, they say I have cute Chinese that is translated meaning embarrassing Chinese.

Billie (13:27):

Mine is childish Spanish. I talk like a child, I’m told. I’m like, well, at least you understand me. I may sound like a child. Which it just means it’s very simplistic. Like my language, I don’t have a complex Spanish language. They brought a very complex Spanish speaker who translated my book. But in the book, I do–it’s funny, you say about food. I talk about food breaks down many barriers. Because when you’re offering, and if you have time for a quick story, Venezuela, Thanksgiving, we were only in Venezuela, October to February for three years. So only a few months. But a lot of American holidays are happening, right. Like a lot of traditional things that you do don’t happen there.

Billie (14:06):

So Thanksgiving was coming around, so I’m like, I’m going to fix a traditional Thanksgiving meal for all the baseball players and coaches. Venezuelan, American. We had some Panamanian players, we had some Colombian players, like, I’m gonna fix a traditional meal. So I went to my butcher. Juan was my butcher, and I’m like, “Juan, I need a Turkey.” By this time I, I knew enough language. If I didn’t, I had a book back then. Nowadays we got it so easy with Google Translate. But I had a book, and I went in the book and I found Turkey and I found all the things. I’m like, I need a Turkey on Wednesday, because I’m making our traditional Thanksgiving on Thursday. He said, okay, okay, I’ll get you a Turkey. So I go back on Wednesday and I’m down with my kids in the stroller, tying a shoe or something, and I hear on the counter. And I thought, oh, he put the Turkey on the counter. Well, he did. Mr. Turkey still had his gobbler. He still had his head, his feet, his feathers. It was a Turkey that was no longer with us. But he had everything. It always had, I mean, it was almost still warm, like–

Terrie (15:11):

Oh my gosh.

Billie (15:12):

Yes. And I’m like, my eyes got so big. And they all started laughing. They all, everybody working there had come out to watch me because they knew Americans weren’t going to do that. Like, they had enough culture about them with Americans that they knew that wasn’t going to be acceptable. And I went, oh wow. And he goes, yes. Wow. So they dressed the Turkey for me. They got the Turkey ready and it was it, but it was just a funny, funny story of how food–turkeys, chickens, boneless, skinless chicken breasts–they cross a boundary that opened up conversation and relational experiences with other people. And then we had Thanksgiving the next day. And I’m from North Carolina originally, so I made biscuits and I made, you know, homemade stuffing. I bought the bread. ’cause there’s no stuffing in Venezuela back then. Probably not now either.

Billie (16:08):

But I made homemade stuffing. And I mean, it was a traditional from scratch meal. And it was just such a beautiful thing to watch the Venezuelan players come in and be like, oh, what is this? What is, and then, you know, they have arepas, which are like cornmeal and those things are good. My oldest son still makes them now. Like, he cooks them himself because he loves them so much from being a little kid there. And so they had arepas, but they didn’t have biscuits. They had rolls, you know, the restaurants, but they’d never seen biscuits. And boy, when they started eating the biscuits, I had to go make two more batches because they were eating all the biscuits. But it broke a barrier between us that when we came back to the States and would be on a team, even to this day, we’ll run into kids that were players for us back then. We’ve had players that were at that Thanksgiving meal, be coaches with us on the field in the major leagues. And it always comes back to, man, I remember when you would cook this or you would cook that. Do you remember when you did Thanksgiving? Do you remember when you made those biscuits? Like it was very much a barrier breaker. So food can overcome so many things.

Terrie (17:25):

Yeah. And that kind of feeds into also hospitality. I know that was a big deal in Taiwan. If we had people into our home, that was huge because kitchens there are so tiny and usually they have extended family living in a little apartment. You don’t invite people over. You’ll meet at the coffee shop or whatever. So when we invited them to our house, they were shocked, first of all that we would. And I always teased them because they were always worried their houses weren’t clean enough, you know, and everything. And I’m like, dude, if you’re coming to see a clean house, you might as well stay home. I have four kids. You know. But if you’re coming to visit with us, come on over. And we just told them to feel at home. And that was the best thing because they would then open up their hearts and talk with us, and we could build those relationships. And I just feel like in our generation, we’ve lost some of that. When we get so busy with our lives, I think we’ve got to get back to the simple ways of living, the simple hospitality eating together, you know? And building those, those relationships.

Billie (18:36):

Yeah. It’s funny because when we did that, that gathering in Thanksgiving in Venezuela, one of the players was like, I want to introduce you to my grandmother. She’s been such a big part of my life, and I would love for her to meet you. I would like for you to come up to where we live our home and meet my grandmother. And so we had no idea where we were going or what we were doing. And we got in a car of another player, and we drove up into the mountains, and we kept driving and driving. And we’d stop at certain points and look out over the valley that looked into Caracas. We lived in Caracas. And, and we’d look out and we could see our building or we’d go to another point and we could see the white of the ocean and you know, the town around where the ocean was. And kept driving and driving. And there are these little shacks on the side of the mountains, just shacks. And we finally get up to the edge of one of this groups of shacks. And we walk in and it’s pretty rudimentary. There’s no electricity. They’re pump water pumps, but no running water, you know, that type of thing. And we are walking up and I see this woman sweeping the dirt out her front door, dirt floors. But I walk into her home, it’s his grandmother and she welcomes us in and she said, oh, you caught me while I was cleaning. Which was, you know, she felt so sad about. But we walk in and they have a Persian rug on the ground that one of the work, she had worked at a home as a cleaner for years. And they had gifted her this rug upon her retirement.

Billie (20:13):

And it’s laying on her dirt floor and she’s swept it and swept the dirt off the dirt floor. Which doesn’t make sense, but it’s very compacted. So, you know, they sweep it to keep it compacted. And it was just such an honor to be in her home. This player spoke English and he was able to translate for us. And her tears in her eyes of how we had loved on her grandson and how we had invited him into our home for such a grand meal. Such a grand gesture. And she was so blessed that we had, you know, done that she wanted to have us in her home. And she had cooked us sofas and we sat down and we ate. And it was just the most beautiful relational exchange. I never saw that woman again. I prayed for her often. We didn’t see her grandson that next year.

Billie (21:03):

We did a few, I guess that was like our first year there. And then we were there. Two more winters. We saw him, never saw her again. And then a few years after we left, there was a landslide, a mudslide on the mountain that she lived on, on one portion of it. And I’m not sure if she survived or not. I asked a few people and no one really knew. So I prayed for her often. She was just such a beautiful soul. But that was initiated by us inviting her grandson into our home and inviting people into your space. Inviting people in and loving on them the way that Christ has called us to love others, even if we’re only going to be in a situation with them one time. It’s still important to connect on a very loving level.

Terrie (21:50):

It is. Yeah. And you don’t know what seeds you’re planting or what seeds you’re watering that God is gonna harvest in their life. Well, what pointers would you give someone today who wants to, besides making connection that we’ve already been talking about. Yeah. You know, to help them to really go beyond that initial connection, to build a relationship that helps each other nur nurture each other in their walk with Christ.

Billie (22:16):

Yeah. One of the things that I talk about in the book that’s been sort of freeing to me that I walked through is understanding the d different types of relationships that we’re gonna encounter every day. There are four different types of relationships. There’s the accidental acquaintance that you’re just gonna run into once or twice, never see again. Maybe there’s the social circle. Those are the people that maybe you volunteer with in a group or your kids’ soccer team, moms or Bible study at church, or the church members at church. You’re in the social circle with them, but you don’t feel that deep connection to grow in relationship with them. And then you have your kindred spirits. You know those people that you meet. And I go back to Anne of Green Gables when she’s like, “Oh Diana, I believe we’re kindred spirits.” You have that feeling that I really like this person, and I want to get to know them more than just the topical relationship we have in that social circle. That kindred spirit you grow deeper with, and you spend more time with. And you get to understand more. You get to know how they tick, how their life is. You know, you get to share life with them at a deeper level. And then the last ones that forever family, those couple of people in your life that are always there, that will go to battle with you and fight for you and will pray for you before you even ask for it. Would they know that things are going not so good in your life before you even know that it’s not that good in your life before you recognize it. So that forever family’s always there. And when I figured out those four relationships, I realized that there are a lot of people that I had put in the category of kindred spirit and forever family that really should have stayed in the social circle. Because they didn’t connect with me on the same level I was connecting with them. Or, you know, I thought everybody should be my best friend. Even if I met them as a taxi driver in New York City one time, they should be my best friend. You know? And that just, it gave me such freedom to know that not every relational encounter we have every day is going to grow in a deeper level. So there was freedom in that, that I don’t have to nurture these relationships at the same level. That I can actually take time to foster relationships that I know that are growing into these levels. And then sometimes they don’t stay forever family or they don’t stay kindred spirit. They go back to the social circle, and that’s okay. Life happens.

Billie (24:45):

The day my baby boy graduated high school, I’ve not seen the moms that I spent every day with at sporting events. I’ve not seen some of them ever again. We are friends on Facebook and Instagram and we comment and we like things and we say congratulations when somebody gets engaged or graduated from college or whatever. Yeah. But that’s a social circle. So a lot of them who I was spending every day with going to battle with loving on, went back to a social circle. But just because of our proximity that we weren’t around each other as much anymore. So having that freedom to know that not everybody’s gonna be forever family, and not everybody’s gonna be kindred spirit. You’re gonna have less in your forever family, a few more than that in your kindred spirit. But your social circles where your numbers are, that’s the most people you’re gonna be around. And just understanding those relationships that you can love them, even if they don’t grow into deeper relationships.

Billie (25:46):

We can always love them as Christ called us to love one another. Right. He called us to love our neighbor, our neighbor’s. Not just the person sitting next to us. Or living next to us, our neighbor. Now we have a global neighborhood of WhatsApp. You know, Snapchat, Instagram, Twitter, Facebook. That’s a global community that we have access to. I’m able to be in touch with people that I knew in Venezuela in the early nineties that I had no contact with for about 10 years before we reconnected a few, you know, 10, 15 years before we reconnected. It’s such a beautiful place to, a space to love on other people. And I think I’d look at social media as a relationship building place too, because we can find things that really irritate us. You know, those things that just grind on us. We can find those on social media, but we can also use social media as a prayer platform.

Billie (26:45):

When we see somebody struggling, we can slip in their, in their direct messages and say, Hey, I’m so sorry I’m praying for you right now. I want you to know that I’ve got your back and this, I’m praying for you right now. Let me know if you have any specific prayers or if somebody that you know that you’re closer to. I’ve had to do this with some family members a few times of, Hey, check yourself. That doesn’t look real good on social media. And there are people watching that you don’t even think about or watching. You know, social media can be such a place to keep each other accountable, to love on one another, to pray for one another, to not try to beat our beliefs into people, but to love them like Christ loved them. Showing them how Jesus loves others by showing them through our actions and our words so we can build relationships. But having those four defined relationships has given me so much freedom to pour into each of those relationships in different ways.

Terrie (27:47):

Yeah, that’s good. And I love that too. We talk about how when we are in a deeper relationship and one-on-one trying to disciple someone and help them understand their new relationship with Christ. You know, you wanna connect and we have such a cool opportunity with social media, with texting that when we can’t in our busyness get together more than once or twice a week, if we’re fortunate we can get together on media. We can encourage each other, pray for each other, like you said. And I just think that instead of looking at it as something that’s crazy in our society today, look at it as a tool that we can use and connect with people. And I love that.

Billie (28:29):

It’s a new opportunity. It’s, think about it, if we go back to, you know, Adam and Eve didn’t write things down. It was all verbal history all the way through. And then all of a sudden people started writing things down. Don’t you think there were people like, Hmm, I don’t know about that. I don’t know that you should be doing that. That’s not, you know, and then electricit., What evil spirits are you putting in your house? And then the telephone, well, good glory. Did that not increase gossip? Especially on the party lines. There may be people, oh listen to this, that don’t even remember those days. But that was when more than one house had a phone line together. You know, it’s like conference calls or, you know, or connecting your calls on your iPhone. I think every new opportunity that happens in life, if we look at it as all evil, we’re never going to learn how to use it in the way that God intends us to use it. I thank God every day that we have the medical advances we do, because I was a nurse and even beginning nursing for me in the eighties, there was a lot going on that nowadays we have medications for, and we have the availability to scans that can show things that we didn’t have back then. Blood tests that can show things we didn’t know back then. Medications to treat things that we weren’t treating back then. And so these advances in technology, in medicine, in, in everyday life, I mean we’re, it seems like it’s changing faster and faster. We can use those as opportunities or we can stand back and let opportunities miss. And I believe God has given us a very beautiful platform to be able to use these opportunities to glorify him.

Terrie (30:19):

Yeah. And to bring him into that atmosphere and put a positive note out there in all the negativity. I post on X they call it now Twitter, whatever. I post on there just to put something positive in there. We can be a light in a new way.

Billie (30:44):

Absolutely. And we don’t have to bear our souls of everything about Jesus. We can just love on people, you know? Congratulations. I actually had a talk with a girl yesterday. I had a speaking event yesterday. And she came up to me and she’s like, Hey, I saw when on your reel on Instagram when you said this, and oh my gosh, it was really impactful. And I’m like, I haven’t seen her interact with anything that I put online. Like I forgot we even followed each other. She’s a baseball wife. I love her. I text with her often, but I forgot we followed each other online or that she followed me online. I see her baby pictures, and I comment and like, and all that. But I went back and looked and I’m like, she hasn’t interacted on or she hasn’t, I haven’t seen an interaction, a like or comment from her, but she’s seen everything I’m posting. She made a comment about quite a few things that she’s like. It really made me think deeper about this. So to get on these places, like you’re saying, and put a positive note out there, something funny, break this divisiveness that we have in our culture that if you don’t believe like me, look like me, eat like me, speak like me, then I’m not gonna have anything to do with you. And I’m just not that person. I wanna include everyone. I wanna open up my very public life, even more so by being on social media. You know, my husband’s been been in professional baseball for 37 years. We’ve done 18 years in major league baseball. And so our lives are pretty public to the point that when my kids were little fans would bring them birthday gifts and these fans I had never even met before. You know? That’s how public your life is in baseball. And a lot of sports, a lot of entertainment. It’s that way. So you have this very public lifestyle. And now we have social media, which increases the pub public side of it. Right? But if we use it for the positive and take out the negative, then we are at least pour, we have a new way to teach others about the love of Jesus. We can be a light in a dark place like X, I don’t post there. I troll every now and then I’ll go through and troll on stuff. But, you know, it’s just funny. You know, you go on and look for the good stuff and you try to, to pour in a little bit of Jesus love and light and include other people. And I don’t know, I just think we have to embrace everything that changes and find a way that we can use it to spread the gospel.

Terrie (33:19):

I keep thinking about everything. Because we went to Venezuela in 2006. And it was right before it became socialist. And so we met so many beautiful, wonderful people. We got to minister to the Chinese people there.

Billie (33:33):

That’s awesome.

Terrie (33:34):

Yeah. Because we, you know, coming from Taiwan, we brought people with us, and they’re like, where’d you come from? We said, Taiwan. And they’re like, no, you didn’t, you came from the US. And I’m like, no, we came all the way from Taiwan. And one guy said, why, why would you come all this way from Taiwan? He’s a Chinese man. And one of our members said, because God loves you that much that he brought us here to tell you about him. And I’m just like, crying. It was so spot on. That’s exactly what it was. We had prayed for them and just God was calling us to go on this trip, and it was so amazing to connect with them. And then what was awesome about it, the missionaries–our best friends from college were missionaries there for years– and when we left, he’s now our director of missions in our area, but they were still down there then. And he called my husband or messaged him and said, we have tried and tried to connect with the Chinese community and they’ve just been very closed. But since you guys were here, they invited us to their monthly gathering. They would get together once a month, the whole community and just have a fellowship time. They invited our friends who were American missionaries to come to their meeting. And it was like, wow. You just never know. The kindnesses, the sharing that little seed of the gospel or whatever we do, what door that’s going to open and how God is going to use it. He multiplies it all. I mean, the Bible tells us he’ll multiply it a hundred times. If we’re just bold and faithful. And that’s what I see with you and with your ministry, is you are a bold person full of love. And that boldness is what God can use instead of being, you know, in our generation we think of boldness as being obnoxious and rude.

Billie (35:24):

Like for a woman. My kids joke with me that I’m gonna die in an Uber because I have a tendency to pray for people in Ubers. Like the drivers. And I’ve had some incidents where they were men of different, very strong faiths that are not very respectful of women. And you know, I’ve had times where this one, I went to New York City, my husband was with the New York Mets in 2021, and we were moving to New York City for the season. So it was about early April. And I was getting there and going to an apartment that I’ve never seen because that’s what we baseball people do. We get them online or through a realtor. We have no idea where we’re going. And I get in this Uber at LaGuardia, and the man was a very large man. I knew of a different culture, a different religion, just by some of the signs that I saw. I asked him how he and his family fared through Covid. And it was very raw and real in 21, still in New York. They were, there was some serious PTSD happening in that community, the whole New York City. And that man, very large man, very strong, started sobbing in the Uber. And he said that he lost five people in his family: his mother, his father, his mother-in-Law, his father-in-Law, and his brother. And he lost them all in his own home within eight days. Grief-stricken. This man was sobbing, and we’re heading on to the interstate, the highway. And I’m like thinking number one, we might die. I go, do you need to pull over? And he is like, no. And I said, well, can I pray for you? And he looked in the rear view mirror and I said, I’m a Christian.

Billie (37:08):

I believe that prayer–that God can heal us of our grief and fill us with peace, and I would love to pray for you. And he said, okay. So I started praying and back then they had the partition. There was like a partition between, the plastic, between the driver and the back seat. And there was a venting coming in with air conditioning coming back. And I placed my hand on that plastic, and I started praying, and my eyes were closed and my head was down. And I was just praying that the Lord would fill this man with peace and that the grief would not overwhelm him and that fear would not overwhelm him. And I just went into this very deep prayer in the name of Jesus. And all of a sudden I feel on the, on the plastic thing as a hit a slap. And I jumped because I thought he was stopping me, and he wasn’t. He had put the back of his hand up to my hand. And as I prayed in the name of Jesus that he would be relieved of fear and filled with peace, he stopped crying. I finished the prayer and he said, thank you.

Billie (38:12):

Now, I don’t know, Terrie, if that ever evolved into that man becoming a Christian. I don’t know. But I know in that moment he knew the loving, healing power of Jesus. And it terrified. I have three boys and they’re like, mom, what do you got to do that for? Couldn’t you just pray for him quietly? I’m like, no, because God asked me to pray and I, let me tell you, uncomfortable did not want to do it. Surely did not want to be dumped in the East River. Like I knew what I was doing was a little nerve wracking. I’ve had an incident on a plane with an Orthodox Jewish man where I ended up having a long conversation and praying for the healing of one of his children that was sick. And I told him, I will pray in the name of Jesus, the healing blood of Jesus. And he said, please do.

Terrie (39:06):

Wow.

Billie (39:07):

We never know. Now I’ve had people say no too. And then I quietly pray, but we never know. Never know when people are gonna say yes to us. And there’s an opportunity to plant a seed of words. In their mind that just, you know, it’s like God’s small whispers. What is God’s small whisper in their ear? The Lord can use my voice to put his words into a small whisper in someone’s ears. I don’t want to lose that opportunity.

Terrie (39:37):

No, that’s right.

Billie (39:37):

I want to embrace it. I don’t want to be obnoxious, I don’t want to be pushy. I don’t want to be, but I want to be bold because God has given me the boldness. You know, and one of the scriptures that I have on my wall about fear, because I can fall into fear sometimes is “For God has not given us a spirit of fear, but of power, love, and self-control.” Some say a sound mind. But I like the self-control one, because we have to know when to be bold in our fears. God has given us his Holy Spirit to fill us with that oldness, that power, his power so that we can show love to others. And that I think is what I try to do every day. And don’t worry, I chicken out at times too. So I, I’m not doing it all the time, but I seem to not chicken out in the scariest of times. And I chicken out with the people that are like, well I’m Christian, I can pray. You know, whatever Or you know, so

Terrie (40:34):

Yeah. That’s funny. Well I have thoroughly enjoyed this conversation. I didn’t know you were going to make me cry. That’s not fair.

Billie (40:44):

It’s just the overabundance of God’s love in you. That’s what I say, when you have those tears come out of joy and love, that’s just the overabundance of God’s love pouring out of your eyes. That’s all.

Terrie (40:56):

I love it. That’s beautiful. Well thank you for sharing with us today. And if people want to connect with you, I know you do speaking and different engagements, how can they reach you?

Billie (41:06):

The best place is my website and it’s billyjauss.com. B-I-L-L-I-E-J-A-U-S-S sam sam.com. And you can go on there, and you have all the links. Email me at billy@billyjauss.com if you need to. And then I’m on all the social medias, is Billy Jauss It’s a pretty odd name.

Terrie (41:28):

Right. That’s great. Well, thank you once again, and I’ve really enjoyed this conversation, and we will look for you online.

Billie (41:35):

Sounds great. Thank you so much. I’ve really enjoyed it.

Terrie (41:38):

We’re so glad you joined us today and hope you were blessed by the stories that Billie shared with us today. I wish you could have heard the conversation after we stopped recording. It really was wonderful, and I wish we had still had it going. She shared about her experiences discipling these young women whose husbands are in baseball and how she’s helped them because they get, you know, moved from place to place. And learning to just accept where God has you and embracing where he has you at that moment. And it was such a good discussion and such a good lesson. But we had already stopped the recording, but I think in her book you will grab those kinds of messages and those kinds of lessons that she’s learned along the way. She’s a very bold and interesting person who loves to share about her God, and I just love that.

Terrie (42:33):

Well, our prayer is that we can obey Jesus’ command to make disciples as we reach and equip this generation of believers to reach and equip the next generation of believers with everyday discipleship, every day.

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